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athousanderrors) wrote2019-04-28 04:54 pm
athousanderrors) wrote2019-04-28 04:54 pm
cleolinda: seperis: giddygeek: stultiloquentia: cleolinda: cimness: The funniest thing about...
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cleolinda:
seperis:
giddygeek:
stultiloquentia:
cleolinda:
cimness:
The funniest thing about this Magicians clusterfuck to me is that they didn’t even wait long enough between making the queer couple canon and killing the dude to have benefited from the growth in audience that the former would normally create.
Like, the “There’s a queer character” bush telephone was activated, and people EVERYWHERE had put “check this show out, it has this queer thing” on their To Do Lists, but the number that had actually gotten around to doing it before they killed him was … not the majority by any means.
So from outside, elsewhere in fandom, it was like “Oh, what’s that, oh, it’s that show I heard about and I’m gonna check it out sometime because they made the lead bisexual and there’s a canon - what? Oh… he’s dead now.”
I would like to confirm that, at the beginning of this past week when I first posted about the show and basically had a two-day “dude they did WHAT” party in my Twitter mentions, I had S O M A N Y PEOPLE tell me that
– They had heard of the show after 4.05 (the “made it canon” episode) and had considered watching it. WELL, NOT ANYMORE;
– They had heard etc. etc. and had only just started catching up from the beginning (which took me a solid month), and they sure as hell weren’t gonna keep going NOW;
– They had given up on the show in S1, specifically (a frequent response, btw), but had recently considered giving it a shot again. WELL, NOT NOW;
– They had fallen behind on this last season and were nearly caught up to the finale, but they sure as hell weren’t going to press forward NOW;
so yes, the above post is exactly what happened for the majority of people who responded to me. A smaller number of people told me they were current fans. Also, they were crushed. Nobody as far as I recall, nobody, said to me that they were happy with the way the “beautiful” finale played out. There was some half-hearted, doubtful interest in maybe watching S5. Most people who replied to me said that they did not want to.
4.05 to 4.13. The show gave people the space of exactly eight episodes to hear about the thing, decide if they had time in their busy netflixing lives for the thing, then find that time, before the show took the thing away. And the show did it at a finale/hiatus point, without a Tune In Next Week for people to maybe come back in embittered curiosity and see if the show might fix things. The producers shoved their own show straight off a cliff and I will never be able to understand why they thought this was in their own best interests. The sheer inexplicable nonsense of it needles me as much as anything else does.
It’s so true. Someone was raving about it at fan brunch almost exactly a month ago, like, “I bounced off the pilot, but my friend told me to try again, and YOU GUYS…!!!” and explaining how she’d started out hating Quentin but now she got cranky every time Quentin left the screen…and the rest of the table was like, “Really? I bounced off the pilot too. Huh. Hmmm,” and then we watched a couple vids.
That person at brunch was me: I was VERY excited, and wanted everyone to like the thing I was loving!
And then, mere WEEKS later, I took it all back.
I’ve never been so embarrassed to have recommended something, and I have recced some TRASH in my time—I have almost zero taste and too much enthusiasm!! This is a life choice!! But rarely has my trash made me feel like I had set my friends up on a misleading journey: friends, at the end of this road there is CAKE; jk jk I have no taste, too much enthusiasm, and I’m a gullible mfer to boot; at the end of THIS road, a cake punches you in the face!
I’m glad the show went from genuinely intriguing to wtf too fast for word of mouth to have taken it to a higher level of fandom.
This, God.
I love trash without shame and don’t care, and I rec what I like but always make sure the audience goes in knowing what they’re getting (or will know this isn’t their thing right off the bat).
The cake at the end of this journey is not good cake; it is Anne Shirley cake, the one she made with anodyne liniment instead of vanilla and almost poisoned the minister’s wife. The cake is a lie.
I’m circling back to reblog all this because
1) I forgot to mention, I actually had to text my sister like “hey did you actually watch the Magicians yet like I suggested because it turns out, in fact, that this ain’t it, chief”
2) conversations like these are maybe the most effective ones, particularly “no I actually DID quit the show before and I will walk away again, this is not an idle ‘salty fan’ threat,” because they demonstrate an actual financial consequence to the network
3) Anne Shirley Cake omg
(Your picture was not posted)
cleolinda:
seperis:
giddygeek:
stultiloquentia:
cleolinda:
cimness:
The funniest thing about this Magicians clusterfuck to me is that they didn’t even wait long enough between making the queer couple canon and killing the dude to have benefited from the growth in audience that the former would normally create.
Like, the “There’s a queer character” bush telephone was activated, and people EVERYWHERE had put “check this show out, it has this queer thing” on their To Do Lists, but the number that had actually gotten around to doing it before they killed him was … not the majority by any means.
So from outside, elsewhere in fandom, it was like “Oh, what’s that, oh, it’s that show I heard about and I’m gonna check it out sometime because they made the lead bisexual and there’s a canon - what? Oh… he’s dead now.”
I would like to confirm that, at the beginning of this past week when I first posted about the show and basically had a two-day “dude they did WHAT” party in my Twitter mentions, I had S O M A N Y PEOPLE tell me that
– They had heard of the show after 4.05 (the “made it canon” episode) and had considered watching it. WELL, NOT ANYMORE;
– They had heard etc. etc. and had only just started catching up from the beginning (which took me a solid month), and they sure as hell weren’t gonna keep going NOW;
– They had given up on the show in S1, specifically (a frequent response, btw), but had recently considered giving it a shot again. WELL, NOT NOW;
– They had fallen behind on this last season and were nearly caught up to the finale, but they sure as hell weren’t going to press forward NOW;
so yes, the above post is exactly what happened for the majority of people who responded to me. A smaller number of people told me they were current fans. Also, they were crushed. Nobody as far as I recall, nobody, said to me that they were happy with the way the “beautiful” finale played out. There was some half-hearted, doubtful interest in maybe watching S5. Most people who replied to me said that they did not want to.
4.05 to 4.13. The show gave people the space of exactly eight episodes to hear about the thing, decide if they had time in their busy netflixing lives for the thing, then find that time, before the show took the thing away. And the show did it at a finale/hiatus point, without a Tune In Next Week for people to maybe come back in embittered curiosity and see if the show might fix things. The producers shoved their own show straight off a cliff and I will never be able to understand why they thought this was in their own best interests. The sheer inexplicable nonsense of it needles me as much as anything else does.
It’s so true. Someone was raving about it at fan brunch almost exactly a month ago, like, “I bounced off the pilot, but my friend told me to try again, and YOU GUYS…!!!” and explaining how she’d started out hating Quentin but now she got cranky every time Quentin left the screen…and the rest of the table was like, “Really? I bounced off the pilot too. Huh. Hmmm,” and then we watched a couple vids.
That person at brunch was me: I was VERY excited, and wanted everyone to like the thing I was loving!
And then, mere WEEKS later, I took it all back.
I’ve never been so embarrassed to have recommended something, and I have recced some TRASH in my time—I have almost zero taste and too much enthusiasm!! This is a life choice!! But rarely has my trash made me feel like I had set my friends up on a misleading journey: friends, at the end of this road there is CAKE; jk jk I have no taste, too much enthusiasm, and I’m a gullible mfer to boot; at the end of THIS road, a cake punches you in the face!
I’m glad the show went from genuinely intriguing to wtf too fast for word of mouth to have taken it to a higher level of fandom.
This, God.
I love trash without shame and don’t care, and I rec what I like but always make sure the audience goes in knowing what they’re getting (or will know this isn’t their thing right off the bat).
The cake at the end of this journey is not good cake; it is Anne Shirley cake, the one she made with anodyne liniment instead of vanilla and almost poisoned the minister’s wife. The cake is a lie.
I’m circling back to reblog all this because
1) I forgot to mention, I actually had to text my sister like “hey did you actually watch the Magicians yet like I suggested because it turns out, in fact, that this ain’t it, chief”
2) conversations like these are maybe the most effective ones, particularly “no I actually DID quit the show before and I will walk away again, this is not an idle ‘salty fan’ threat,” because they demonstrate an actual financial consequence to the network
3) Anne Shirley Cake omg
(Your picture was not posted)